Anna Bolena (Anne Boleyn)

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    Bellissimo Cla.
    Le cose che ho sempre trovato più assurde, riguardo la storia di Anna, sono state le accuse che le sono state mosse contro.
    E' davvero assurdo ma non c'è da meravigliarsi se pensiamo ad Enrico VIII che, se non erro, non è ricordato come un re cattivo, anzi, ma sicuramente era uno psicopatico fuori di testa con evidenti deliri di onnipotenza.
     
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    Le cose che ho sempre trovato più assurde, riguardo la storia di Anna, sono state le accuse che le sono state mosse contro.

    E' vero, alcune erano totalmente campate per aria (una regina non aveva assolutamente la privacy necessaria per tradire il marito, sicuramente non tante volte e con tanta gente diversa) e alcune risibili: ha riso del re, del suo aspetto e delle poesie che scrive? E la ammazzi? Ma era ovvio che voleva semplicemente toglierla di mezzo.
     
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    Va be' ma ovvio, del resto se era stato capace di gettare via Caterina che aveva sicuramente dietro di sé gente più importante di Anna (la corona spagnola) e per questa aveva addirittura attuato uno scisma, non è che si creasse tanti problemi.
     
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    Non andava mai per il sottile XD
    L'execution site alla Torre, quando ci sono andata ho fatto paccate di foto ma questa è di internet:

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    Che donna! (bravissima Cla :D)
    Su Anna Bolena non sono mai riuscita a farmi un'idea "pulita": viene sempre rappresentata come la classica arrivista che a un certo punto viene fatta fuori, per cui...
    Comunque quando sono stata alla Tower of London quest'estate c'erano degli attori che rappresentavano il processo ad alcuni famosi condannati, fra cui lei. Peccato essere arrivata quasi alla fine...ho assistito solo all'esecuzione!!
     
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    Che chiul XD io ho trovato attori che rappresentavano scene della vita dei Tudor ad Hampton Court. Più che recitare facevano proprio un roleplay comunque, parlavano come il personaggio anche se li fermavi casualmente. "Anna" spiegava il significato dei suoi gioielli a una bambina incantata. E' stato bellissimo <3

    Di lei nemmeno io ho un'idea chiara, o meglio adoro l'Anna di Natalie Dormer ma non è così che mi immagino la vera Anna. Credo che abbia davvero avuto dell'arrivisimo, il che non fa di lei un personaggio negativo nella mia mente, ma nemmeno me la fa adorare alla follia. La ammiro tantissimo per aver avuto Enrico al guinzaglio, quello sì XD e ovviamente sono convinta al 100% della sua innocenza rispetto alle accuse.
     
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    CITAZIONE (marie. @ 20/5/2013, 15:17) 
    La ammiro tantissimo per aver avuto Enrico al guinzaglio, quello sì XD e ovviamente sono convinta al 100% della sua innocenza rispetto alle accuse.

    :) ma quello certo! E' triste vedere come nella storia le grandi donne non abbiano fatto altro che finire uccise e screditate solo perchè si adeguavano alla morale del loro tempo, invece che essere le solite Madonne senza macchia e senza paura.
     
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    Eh, figuriamoci. Chi ne esce peggio è giustamente l'Enricone, che ha mosso mari e monti per Anna (e tutto ciò che orbitava attorno ad Anna, certo) finché ha avuto la fregola e poi se n'è sbarazzato nel suo modo classico XD
     
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    Enrico e l'ossessione per il maschio non era sana, aveva sicuramente problemi mentali e un bel delirio di onnipotenza. D'altronde fare uno scisma non è una cosa da nulla! Anna non so è una figura di cui ancora oggi non so farmi una vera e propria idea, non credo alle accuse che le sono state mosse da Enrico figuriamoci, ma penso anche io che avesse per forza un po' di sana ambizione e arrivismo come è giusto che fosse. Ciò per cui la stimo è che pur non essendo bella come la Natalie Dormer e di estrazione sociale media sia riuscita ad arrivare più in alto di chiunque altra donna nel suo tempo !
     
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    No scusate, guardate che meraviglia sta mandando la BBC: TUDOR COURT SEASON!!!

    Immagine

    bbc.co.uk

     
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    Ricordami, dear Laura, perché non siamo inglesi?
     
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    Anne Boleyn: witch, bitch, temptress, feminist



    As a small child I remember being told by a solemn nun that Anne Boleyn had six fingers on one hand. In the nun's eyes, it was the kind of deformity that Protestants were prone to; it was for Anne's sake, as everyone knew, that Henry VIII had broken away from Rome and plunged his entire nation into the darkness of apostasy. If it weren't for this depraved woman, England would be as holy as Ireland, and we'd all eat fish on Friday and come from families of 12.

    Anne Boleyn wasn't exactly a Protestant, but she was a reformer, an evangelical; and the sixth finger, which no one saw in her lifetime, was a fragment of black propaganda directed at her daughter, Elizabeth I. In Elizabeth's reign it was the duty of beleaguered papists to demonstrate that the queen's mother had been physically and spiritually deformed. Hence, not just the extra finger but the "wen" on her throat, which supposedly she hid with jewellery: hence the deformed foetus to which she was said to have given birth. There is no evidence that this monster baby ever existed, yet some modern historians and novelists insist on prolonging its poor life, attracted to the most lurid version of events they can devise.

    Anne Boleyn is one of the most controversial women in English history; we argue over her, we pity and admire and revile her, we reinvent her in every generation. She takes on the colour of our fantasies and is shaped by our preoccupations: witch, bitch, feminist, sexual temptress, cold opportunist. She is a real woman who has acquired an archetypal status and force, and one who patrols the nightmares of good wives; she is the guilt-free predator, the man-stealer, the woman who sets out her sexual wares and extorts a fantastic price. She is also the mistress who, by marrying her lover, creates a job vacancy. Her rise is glittering, her fall sordid. God pays her out. The dead take revenge on the living. The moral order is reasserted.

    Much of what we think we know about Anne melts away on close inspection. We can't say for certain what year she was born, and there are many things we don't understand about how her violent death was contrived. Holbein created incisive portraits of Henry VIII and his courtiers, but there is no reliable contemporary likeness of Anne. The oval face, the golden "B" with the pendant pearls: the familiar image and its many variants are reconstructions, more or less romantic, prettified. The fact that some antique hand has written her name on a portrait does not mean that we are looking at Henry's second queen. Her image, her reputation, her life history is nebulous, a drifting cloud, a mist with certain points of colour and definition. Her eyes, it was said, were "black and beautiful". On her coronation day she walked the length of Westminster Abbey on a cloth of heaven-blue. Twice in her life at least she wore a yellow dress: once at her debut at court in 1521, and again near the end of her life, on the frozen winter's day when, on learning of the death of Henry's first queen, she danced.

    When she first appeared at court she was about 21 years old, lithe, ivory-skinned, not a conventional beauty but vital and polished, glowing. Her father Thomas Boleyn was an experienced diplomat, and Anne had spent her teenage years at the French court. Even now, Englishwomen envy the way a Frenchwoman presents herself: that chic self-possession that is so hard to define or imitate. Anne had brought home an alluring strangeness: we imagine her as sleek, knowing, self-controlled. There is no evidence of an immediate attraction between Henry and the new arrival. But if, when she danced in that first masque, she raised her eyes to the king, what did she see? Not the obese, diseased figure of later years, but a man 6' 3" in height, trim-waisted, broad-chested, in his athletic prime: pious, learned, the pattern of courtesy, as accomplished a musician as he was a jouster. She saw all this but above all, she saw a married man.

    L'articolo è di Hilary Mantel, lo trovate tutto sul Guardian
     
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    La lettera che sembra che Anna abbia scritto ad Enrico VIII qualche giorno prima dell'esecuzione. Non è certo che sia autentica:

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    To the King from the Lady in the Tower” [Heading said to have been added by Thomas Cromwell]

    “Sir, your Grace’s displeasure, and my Imprisonment are Things so strange unto me, as what to Write, or what to Excuse, I am altogether ignorant; whereas you sent unto me (willing me to confess a Truth, and so obtain your Favour) by such a one, whom you know to be my ancient and professed Enemy; I no sooner received the Message by him, than I rightly conceived your Meaning; and if, as you say, confessing Truth indeed may procure my safety, I shall with all Willingness and Duty perform your Command.

    But let not your Grace ever imagine that your poor Wife will ever be brought to acknowledge a Fault, where not so much as Thought thereof proceeded. And to speak a truth, never Prince had Wife more Loyal in all Duty, and in all true Affection, than you have found in Anne Boleyn, with which Name and Place could willingly have contented my self, as if God, and your Grace’s Pleasure had been so pleased. Neither did I at any time so far forge my self in my Exaltation, or received Queenship, but that I always looked for such an Alteration as now I find; for the ground of my preferment being on no surer Foundation than your Grace’s Fancy, the least Alteration, I knew, was fit and sufficient to draw that Fancy to some other subject.

    You have chosen me, from a low Estate, to be your Queen and Companion, far beyond my Desert or Desire. If then you found me worthy of such Honour, Good your Grace, let not any light Fancy, or bad Counsel of mine Enemies, withdraw your Princely Favour from me; neither let that Stain, that unworthy Stain of a Disloyal Heart towards your good Grace, ever cast so foul a Blot on your most Dutiful Wife, and the Infant Princess your Daughter.

    Try me, good King, but let me have a Lawful Trial, and let not my sworn Enemies sit as my Accusers and Judges; yes, let me receive an open Trial, for my Truth shall fear no open shame; then shall you see, either mine Innocency cleared, your Suspicion and Conscience satisfied, the Ignominy and Slander of the World stopped, or my Guilt openly declared. So that whatsoever God or you may determine of me, your Grace may be freed from an open Censure; and mine Offence being so lawfully proved, your Grace is at liberty, both before God and Man, not only to execute worthy Punishment on me as an unlawful Wife, but to follow your Affection already settled on that party, for whose sake I am now as I am, whose Name I could some good while since have pointed unto: Your Grace being not ignorant of my Suspicion therein.

    But if you have already determined of me, and that not only my Death, but an Infamous Slander must bring you the enjoying of your desired Happiness; then I desire of God, that he will pardon your great Sin therein, and likewise mine Enemies, the Instruments thereof; that he will not call you to a strict Account for your unprincely and cruel usage of me, at his General Judgement-Seat, where both you and my self must shortly appear, and in whose Judgement, I doubt not, (whatsover the World may think of me) mine Innocence shall be openly known, and sufficiently cleared.

    My last and only Request shall be, That my self may only bear the Burthen of your Grace’s Displeasure, and that it may not touch the Innocent Souls of those poor Gentlemen, who (as I understand) are likewise in strait Imprisonment for my sake. If ever I have found favour in your Sight; if ever the Name of Anne Boleyn hath been pleasing to your Ears, then let me obtain this Request; and I will so leave to trouble your Grace any further, with mine earnest Prayers to the Trinity to have your Grace in his good keeping, and to direct you in all your Actions.

    Your most Loyal and ever Faithful Wife, Anne Bullen.

    From my doleful Prison the Tower, this 6th of May.

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    Riposi in pace amen, decapitata il 19 Maggio 1536 ;_;

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    Good Christian people, I have not come here to preach a sermon; I have come here to die. For according to the law and by the law I am judged to die, and therefore I will speak nothing against it. I am come hither to accuse no man, nor to speak of that whereof I am accused and condemned to die, but I pray God save the king and send him long to reign over you, for a gentler nor a more merciful prince was there never, and to me he was ever a good, a gentle, and sovereign lord. And if any person will meddle of my cause, I require them to judge the best. And thus I take my leave of the world and of you all, and I heartily desire you all to pray for me.


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    Ho appena fatto il mio CENNO STORICO facebookoso! Ieri invece mi sono data ad Ippolita Sforza...
     
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